Curse

TheGuildWarsPenguin · May 24, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

They are both good because they both allied to kill Shiro. But why didnt the forest turn back to normal and the sea back to normal after you kill Shiro?

demon dantes · May 24, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

all i have to say is juggernauts man lol the kurzicks sacraficed people to create them. the seige turtles are hatchlings. so imo sacraficing people would make you the bad guy.

Guardian of the Light · May 24, 2006, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Neither one of them is badder then the other. They only fight 'cause they hate each other.

This is a lot like many fights going on in the real world.

Ninetail Trickster · May 24, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Are Democrats or Republicans the good guys? (Let's ignore the obvious maniacs; both sides have them. -_-)
That's all Factions is. Politics.

....with swords, axes, magic and bloodshed.

Metanoia · May 24, 2006, 04:37 AM // 04:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakken06

Wow...drat that's too convincing...I've gone on appearances...^_^;;; I thought that the Luxons looked like a...I dunno...less organized struggling oppressed peoples, while the Kurzicks look like the evil oppressing rulers... Darn 99.7% opinions of people made on first glance... T_T

I know exactly what you mean. I journeyed all the way into the petrified forest, inhumane baby-turtle traps in hand, ready to join the dark side and the first person I meet asks me to help her find her art supplies.

Hell Raiser · May 24, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Shiro and the Afflicted are the "Bad Guys" in this story, the Luxons and Kurzicks are simply two twins (neither good nor bad) bickering over who is older by what small amount of time, or two children bickering over who's stronger, faster, smarter etc. etc. It's nothing more than a quarrel between two equally talented brothers.

~Hell

A_Muppet · May 24, 2006, 06:23 AM // 06:23

I honestly can't say. Zorian Direspell did a very good analisys before, which I can't improve upon. I personally prefer the Kurzicks, because the Luxon's whole 'We r stronng, we rspect strong kekekekeke!' attitude reminds me far too much of stupid 1337 players from other computergames (cough)Counterstrike(cough) and as someone who's been jaded by having to deal with people like that online for nearly ten years, that attitude irritates me.

...that being said, it also reminds me a bit of norse warrior culter, and I like that.

jackie · May 24, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell Raiser

Shiro and the Afflicted are the "Bad Guys" in this story, the Luxons and Kurzicks are simply two twins (neither good nor bad) bickering over who is older by what small amount of time, or two children bickering over who's stronger, faster, smarter etc. etc. It's nothing more than a quarrel between two equally talented brothers.

~Hell

Indeed,

Neither Luxon nor Kurzick are killing the Emperor or planning to invade all Cantha & beyond.

Kurzicks & Luxons just have deep hatred towards each other, like my neighbours have on me. eep.

=HT=Ingram · May 24, 2006, 06:53 AM // 06:53

lol I thought for sure someone would say it, so I will. lol

Balthazar faction!!! lol JK. Couldn't resist...

Vahn Roi · May 24, 2006, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Kurz seems to me to have a superiority complex calling the Luxons "savages" on the other hand the Luxon's are very violant (they hold a yearly arena battle to determine who gets to kill the Krakan)

Kurz is full of pompous windbags, Luxon is full of people with anger management problems. I'd say it's pretty even.

kimahri · May 24, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Yeah they are both cruel and evil, make your pick.

The Real Roy Keane · May 24, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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Originally Posted by Lurid

Btw, goth and mainstream Emo bullshit are not the same thing.

True, Emos usually develop into Goths around the age of fifteen or so. They generally snap out of this phase a year or so later, when they realise that colours actually look nice on people, and that there are music genres other than rock.

Jagflame · May 24, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Anyone who has done Gyala Hatchery knows why Kurzick are evil... Poor baby turtles...

But seriously, Kurzick attack Luxon too, it's not merely Luxon doing the attacking.

And I'd like to point out that demonic drawings and satanic incantations can be considered art and music... I really don't know how else a society that chooses to live in a stone forest devoid of color can possibly be interested in any form of art. Maybe the reason Luxons don't draw art is because the entire landscape that they live in is basically a giant piece of artwork.

[FnG] Lazz · May 24, 2006, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by Zorian Direspell

Both technically have their virtues and their vices ... I would say that objective morality favors the Kurzicks as the actual good guys however.

Luxons respect strength because it was difficult to survive as a society that relied upon the bounty of the seas when that bounty was taken from them. It was only through sheer force of will ('Strength of Character' as Elder Rhea would have it) that the Luxons survived. There is something admirable in their never say die attitude.

However, the result of this societal development has been that the Luxons don't respect anything without the same devotion to strength as themselves. The weak are left to suffer and die, and those not strong enough to resist the Luxons are broken and destroyed. For the Luxons, there can never be peace, as peace breeds apathy, and apathy drains a society's strength.

Kurzicks, on the other hand, have a very rigid, religious society, bound by forms of tradition and rules of etiquette. Kurzicks respect ingenuity above strength. They pride themselves on their art and invention. Peculiarly, the aesthetic feel of the Kurzicks is essentially "Goth Germanic" and their pale features, dark clothing and rank titles (such as Kommandant) suggest fascist oppression and evil intent. This would seem especially so when compared to the Luxons, whose more colorful clothing and looser social regime suggest a lighter, more airy society. Such appearances are deceiving. The Kurzicks, you see, are interested first and foremost with the preservation of culture (all culture, as there are Kurzicks who study Luxon society).

For the Kurzicks, peace is not only possible, it is a goal to be achieved, if not for the frequent raids and attrocities committed by the Luxons. To be fair, this has led Kurzick forces to adopt rash measures, including a "god's vengeance" weapon, among other things. If the Luxons are capable of consistent attrocities, then the danger of the Kurzicks is their capacity for rarer yet greater attrocities. Regardless, the only faction that could conceive of peaceful coexistance not in contravention to their way of life is the Kurzicks. Which, of course, is why I joined that side.

Woah thats pretty well put

. Im sure ANet could have saved several hundred pages in their manual if they just put that

Lord Shazneri · May 24, 2006, 03:11 PM // 15:11

LUXON - end of story!

Kurzic kill one another and Rip each other off!

see thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3041994

Jagflame · May 24, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Kurzick amber is probably dried blood from their cut wrists.

Haggard · May 24, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02

The Zaibatsu Corporation are the evil ones!

Denshoni · May 24, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Both sides fail because they continue to fight one another and I doubt they even remember why they started in the first place. Blindly fighting one another while teaching the newer generations to hate one another and all that crap. *random thumbs up*

The majority of the armors look better on Kurzick side than Luxon (hence the higher Amber prices over Jadeite). Luxon environments look more pleasing than Kurzick (Overall, kinda bright though...and that's not cool).

Arrogant hippies or Goth baby turtle killers. Pick a side, switch sides, whatever. Just do it and stop thinking so hard. It's not like your permanently bound to the side you choose anyway.

Don Zardeone · May 24, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Shazneri

LUXON - end of story!

Kurzic kill one another and Rip each other off!

see thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3041994

Read the entire thread again.

1. If someone is killing baby turtles then it's the Luxons. LOOK AT YOUR ARMOUR.
+1 evil point

2. Luxons seem to have some Sith-style method to gain control. They kill eachother.
+1 evil point

3. Luxons try to kill the forever trees and other types of trees. They are murderers of the forests, someone call greenpeace.
+1 evil point

4. Shiro is back and they don't want to lend you their spear. They waste your time. They could have just let you grab the spear, kill the damn fish all together as a freaking team and then boogered off.
+1 bastard point

5. Elder Rhea might very well be the gypsy fortuneteller chick who might very well be Glint
+2 specualtion of evilness points

6. Luxons hurt their turtles and mount huge cannons on them. That's animal abuse
+1 evil point for Luxons

7.Luxons were originally pirates
+2 evil points

Kurzicks:
1. Kurzicks protect trees
+1 light side point

2. Kurzicks don't kill turtles for armour, they aren't poachers
+1 lightside ponts

3. Kurzicks sacrifice themselves to protect the trees by becoming a tree.
Compared to the luxons who would rather sacrifice the turle's health...
+3 light side points

4. Kurzicks would like to give you the ashes RIGHT AWAY
+2 light side points

5. But they can't because they ashes are stuck so they give you some help to get them to get the ashes by working like a damn team
+1 light side point

6. Kurzicks show mercy to the luxons in the Eternal grove mission by allowing the Luxons to hide their butts inside their camp. I could have mastered that mission even without the luxons so there...
+5 light side points

End result:
Luxons
- 4 evil points
- 1 bastard point
- 2 speculation of evilness points

Kurzicks:
379835693875 light side points

Kurzicks are the good guys. Luxons are totally, 100% the bad guys

now I see everyone changing factions because they picked by first impression X.x

Jagflame · May 24, 2006, 05:08 PM // 17:08

So Luxons are called hippies while you yourself point out how they love trees, sacrifice themselves for trees, and call greenpeace? Lol.

Here's a better table:

1. Luxons honor the turtles by making the most important aspect of their life (armor) with the deceased's previous plateing. This is similar to someone in today's society wearing a gold locket with a picture of a deceased relative, friend, or lover.
+1 respect point

2. Luxons allow challenges to take place in order that leaders are not permanent and positions change hands.
+1 government point

3. Luxons oppose hippy, extreme organizations such as greenpeace.
+1 practical point

4. Luxons honor traditions and the wishes of their people in order to maintain current practices while still allowing you to obtain the spear.
+1 respect point

5. Elder Rhea might very well be the gypsy fortuneteller chick (which would mean she can ressurect herself) who might very well be Glint.
+2 speculation of awsomeness points

6. Luxons take good care of their domesticated turtles and protect them in danger. They use them for help similar to humans using horses to travel.
+1 good animal trainer point

7.Luxons were originally pirates
+100000000000000 freaking ownage points

1. Kurzicks care about the lives of trees over humans
+1 wtf crazy hippy point

2. Kurzicks brutally slaughter innocent baby turtles (Gyala Hatchery anyone?)
+1000000000000 evil horrible monster needs to be shot in the face points

3. Kurzicks sacrifice their lives to save trees
+3 wtf crazy hippy points

4. Kurzicks' design of politics makes it so you needs the right connections in order to do anything due to its corruptness and the political leaders' inability to change positions and stubborness
+2 corrupt government points

6. Kurzicks show mercy to the luxons in the Eternal grove mission by allowing the Luxons to hide their butts inside their camp. This is the exact same thing only vice versa that happens in the Luxon's Gyala Hatchery mission; only the Luxons showed mercy even after the Kurzick tried to slaughter baby turtles.
+5 mercy points but Luxons got 100 mercy points for Gyala Hatchery so you subtract it to get the Kurzicks -95 mercy points.

There's the real truth. Don't let any Kurzick scum tell you otherwise. Also notice that all my notes are simply the truth about each of the previous poster's notes.